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November 24, 2006

Le vice français

This site has now moved to Salut!

Off to Britain again for most of the next five days but will do my best to keep in touch with Salut!.

With more time, I would have talked about the Paris St Germain fan shot dead by a black police officer in Paris in disturbances after a PSG defeat by Tel Aviv.

All I know is what I have read and heard, and this includes references to the officer trying to protect a Jew being attacked by PSG fans.

PSG is a club with a dreadful hooliganism problem - almost turning one of our (English) vices, now under control if not quite conquered, into le vice français - and sometimes seems locked in a neanderthal age. You don't like us and we don't care, as the Millwall yobs like to put it, and if they cannot find Jews, blacks or rival supporters to fight, they fight among themselves.

Or I might have brought you news of how young French people view the presidential race: essentially no way Sarko, maybe Ségo.

But all this must wait until I have more time to spend with my computer. That will come and soon. Bon weekend.

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At November 25, 2006 6:09 PM, Blogger Bill Taylor said...

What happens to soccer hooligans as they age? Do they go into peaceful retirement with a season ticket or continue as before, seeking out targets of a similar age and decrepitude?
I ask because I recall being on the terraces at Villa Park well over 35 years ago for a local derby match with West Brom (it's too long and sad a story to explain what I was doing there). I was at the West Brom end, though there wasn't any formal segregation of fans, and some Villa thug threw a sharpened half-crown (this in itself bespeaks more money than sense; an old penny would presumably have made almost as effective a weapon) which opened up a fearsome wound on the cheek of someone a couple of rows in front of me. It was a capactiy crowd and it took a while to get him out to where he could be helped. He must still be scarred.
I wonder what he and his unknown assailant think when they look back on the incident. I remember someone picked up the sharpened coin and hurled it back, to loud cheers from those around him. I remember, too, thinking that this would never have happened at Roker Park where fans spent their half crowns on beer and only fought when they were decently drunk and generally unarmed.

At November 26, 2006 3:53 PM, Blogger Bill Taylor said...

Another sad milestone for journalism. It seems that U.K. Press Gazette, which kept Britain's ink-stained wretches au courant with what was going on in the industry, has folded abruptly after 41 years. Staffers were apparently told Friday night that they no longer had jobs.
This raises the question of where up-and-coming journalists around the country will find new jobs. The situations-vacant listings in the back of the magazine were a must-read for anyone seeking a move. I believe this is where Colin found the job that first took him to London, albeit to the suburbs, and changed history.

At November 27, 2006 1:46 PM, Blogger richard of orléans said...

It's going on all the time. A little restructuring here and a little there. People steadily being declared surplus to requirements. The resentment and alienation is steadily rising. You'd think somebody would realise that it is not worth sacrificing everything for cheap bras and knickers from China.

I don't know Toulon very well though I did visit a few years back, nice enough. It is of course Le Pen stomping ground, as is all PACA. There was a FN mayor, Le Chevalier, a few years back. As always when FN gets power there was bickering and fighting, no doubt amplified by the media.It's gone back to the right. So there is obviously an immigration problem. There is also a zone franche, which means that there is an underpriveledged economic area.
I don't know much about military affairs, but I suspect that Brest is winning the defence euros. After all our principle enemy is across the Channel.
Of course Toulon has a famous place in history. They were bribed by the British to reject the revolution, and the Brits occupied the port. An unknown French soldier led his troups magnificently and kicked them out.He was called Napoleon.


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